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Post by lotty64 on Apr 29, 2014 4:48:55 GMT -6
So the story behind this project is rebellion.... Catrin and I have a mutual friend on Facebook who in my opinion is a great woman who champions equality and fairness for indigenous people. Well because she put up a picture of the Dali skull on her facebook page she got a short ban. Totally unjust in my opinion but that is another story. So naturally I looked into the image further and came up with the following loom project. I am just waiting for the beads to arrive and I can get started. x She is no rebel but I just have to make this to show her my support.  |
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Post by Sophy on Apr 29, 2014 12:02:19 GMT -6
That is a good cause, but how is the Dali skull related to it? Btw, that is a rather disturbing image. I googled it and came to a page that shows the live models posing for it. The live model pose is very creepy-looking.
The organization I will be working with works on the rights of indigenous peoples. I'd just like to know if I can be expecting variations of this theme to pop up, so I can protect myself with some garlic, or something. ;-)
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Post by lotty64 on Apr 29, 2014 12:06:55 GMT -6
Not really related to it at all, but the fact that FB take weeks to remove racist sites and only a few hours to remove naked breasts just seems wrong to me. I don't think you will be needing the garlic anytime soon.
This is more about supporting a friend.
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Post by Sophy on Apr 29, 2014 15:16:41 GMT -6
Whew! that's alright, then.
I agree with you re Facebook's policy, that does seem unfair.
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Post by rocknwow on Apr 29, 2014 15:32:42 GMT -6
Odd...that even if this violates the rules...it would've got banned? You'd have thought someone would've had to turn this in/flag for admin. or the censors to find it. Maybe unlucky or maybe Dali Skull is already in the system either way it seems silly.
Then again here in the USA women have been kicked out of stores for breast feeding their babies so I'm not surprised.
I love skulls and breasts are more then acceptable to me; so this is gets high marks on the pleasure scale. I too looked up Dali Skull and saw that shocking image. Perhaps all your friends friends can send in their interpretation of the skull; sans breasts.
Anyway, love the image and your support of a friend.
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Post by Sophy on Apr 29, 2014 19:54:45 GMT -6
I don't pretend to ever know what the Facebook powers-that-be are thinking, but I don't think Caroline's image would cause a fuss. It's pretty stylized. I can see how they would get upset about the live model pose, though.
Caroline, I assume you are going to post the finished project on Facebook?
By the way, does anyone know what does Facebook think of Rubens' paintings? Those are classics.
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Post by Sophy on Apr 29, 2014 19:55:58 GMT -6
I should clarify, what I found disturbing about the live model pose was not the nudity. It was the resemblance to a crucifix.
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Post by gbobmi on Apr 29, 2014 21:25:14 GMT -6
Nothing about it offends or bothers me. I think it's great that you're supporting your friend.
I think Facebook goes overboard with some of their censorship. I've seen a few pictures posted of abused animals (much to my horror and in the name of "outing" offenders) which have disturbed me far more than any nakedness ever could. Why doesn't Facebook censor those?
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Post by lotty64 on Apr 30, 2014 2:19:03 GMT -6
In answer to the above...yes I absolutely will be posting it on facebook alongside the original image to show my interpretation of it. I find nothing offensive about the original but I can understand what your saying Carol. That is what I love about the arts.....differing opinions and interesting discussions. x
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Post by Sophy on Apr 30, 2014 10:41:16 GMT -6
Gayle, what you are saying about abused animals is analogous to what I think about the crucifix-like nature of the live model pose. Crucifixion is a horrible, painful death, much like the abuse of helpless animals (or children, for that matter). We all know this stuff exists, but not sure I want to find it on Facebook!
Obviously, not everyone agrees. I have several friends who use Facebook to push whatever social justice agenda they happen to favor. I may or may not agree, but I don't unfriend them over it. At least, not so far ;-)
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Post by gbobmi on Apr 30, 2014 13:25:42 GMT -6
Carole, I appreciate your opinion on the Dali Skull. I think it's art and subject to interpretation and discussion. That's what art is supposed to do.
I look at Facebook as sort of a virtual town square. You're going to have all sorts of topics, pictures, characters and opinions. If I disagree with someone's political or social opinion...well, it depends on what that is. I would never tolerate racist, misogynistic remarks or pictures. Violence is not to be tolerated. As a rule, I don't pay any attention to most political postings unless they're ones I agree with.
I've unfriended and banned one person, in all the years I've been on Facebook. She was a verbal bully who lorded her opinion over everyone who disagreed with her. She was a nightmare.
Facebook has some pretty strict standards and I don't necessarily agree with some of them. However, if I'm going play in their sandbox, I'm liable to get sand in my pants!
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Post by Sophy on Apr 30, 2014 14:10:15 GMT -6
. However, if I'm going play in their sandbox, I'm liable to get sand in my pants!  Agreed! |
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Post by gbobmi on Apr 30, 2014 15:45:12 GMT -6
YAY!
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Post by Sophy on Apr 30, 2014 16:00:42 GMT -6
And Caroline, thanks for posting about this. It is probably the first piece of art that I have ever discerned any symbolism in. I am the one who, in English class when the teacher asked us about portents of evil, listened to my classmates scoring major points talking about the tapping of the minister's cane as he walked down the street and such-like.
Meanwhile, I was thinking: there was tapping? what page was that on?
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Post by lotty64 on May 1, 2014 13:26:19 GMT -6
That is why this forum is so good. People having a good discussion about stuff. You lot are great. x
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