new beaded studs

[cymmy]

Ok so I gave the beaded bezel another try with these little beaded studs. I love them but also feel like they are not smooth enough. Am I doing something wrong?

[caeterle]

They are very cute!

While Delicas are great in looming or peyote because they "click" together if you know what I mean, I think seed beads give the bezel a smoother look because the beads are more rounded. You usually see the Delicas as one row of the bezel before using 15/0 seed beads because they help decrease the length of the row.

Try the same design with seed beads and I think you'll see the difference.

It's the same reason why I don't use Delicas for the Herringbone technique, but seed beads.

[cymmy]

Ah I did do a pair with the seed beads and the 15/0 of delicas for the inner row but I don't have 15/o seed beads (at least not that I know of) Now I need to go dig through my seed bead drawer LOL I will show you a shot of the others i did tomorrow if i remember to take a pic

[caeterle]

If you want to get some 15s, you can try it out with one color first that goes with everything, like clear or silver for example. I did that when I started because I didn't want a lot of 15s on my hand and never use them.
Now, however, I may have a few colors more ...

[michelle]

Those are really sweet, Diane! I think Cat is probably right about the seed beads vs Delicas. Since I don’t do any looming, I use all seed beads - Miyuki or Toho. I actually think I like the Toho better since they are a bit plumper looking.

[cymmy]

Thanks Michelle!
So these are the ones I made with the seed beads and delicas mixed. I kinda like it and kinda don't. I guess I need to get some 15s to try and see if I like that. I am not sure I like this bead weaving. I had to rip out a bunch of my paisley I was working on and now I am severely mad at it. You guys do such beautiful work. I hope some day i can get the hang of it.

[caeterle]

I think they are very pretty, Diane, but one looks a little bigger, maybe that's what's bugging you about them?
Of course I'm extremely weird about symmetry in earrings and sometimes fiddle for hours like a madwoman
The 15s will get it an even different look than the Delicas.

Also one question, is the row of red beads the first row in peyote or is it the one that is sewn onto the felt? I usually make the first row of sewn on beads very close together, then the first row after that in peyote stands apart a little and upward and the small beads then pull of that together.
That said, I like that the red beads look like tiny petals.

You haven't done this long yet, like all techniques it needs some patience. I definitely think you are on the right way here!

[michelle]

I’m not a fan of doing bead weaving either. Much more difficult than bead embroidery, imo. But I agree with Cat, you’re on the right track! These look good, I think. I see what Cat is saying about the sizes being different, but if you were wearing them (as opposed to holding them side by side) no one could tell.

[DawninCal]

I love what you're doing, Diane. I'm guessing those are your acrylic pours and that is a great way to showcase them.

While I know nothing about the various techniques that use seed beads, I do know that practice is key. The more you do, the better you will get. If you like the look, keep trying, and before you know it, you will have the hang of it.



Dawn

[caeterle]

Michelle, I agree with you on not being able to tell when wearing them.

What I should also mention is that not everyone even makes a bezel for their glued on components depending on what they are. You could actually just bead embroider around them, I think.
I'm just weird about extra safety and given my strained relationship with glue, I keep thinking everything is gonna fall off *lol* Also I like how the bezel kind of connects the cab and the bead embroidery.

That's the nice thing, though, it's up to your imagination what you want to do.

What was the problem that made you rip out the paisley?

[cymmy]

Hey all, thank so much for the feedback. The reason the two pieces are different sizes is because they are drips and I simply domed resin on the drips. I realize now I could have trimmed one a bit and made them the same size but when I first started making them I did a whole slew of them without matching up pairs and making them the same size. Lessons learned! It's funny Cat that you said that the beads look like petals, I think that is why I don't like them as much. I was trying to go with a sleek sophisticated look with these as opposed to flowery. That's why I switched to the delicas but since they don't click together as much as I want when I use them they look disjointed. The row of delicas on this set actually look good, its the first pair with both rows of delicas that I think looks so bad. I like the idea of just putting a single row around the outer edge but I have the same fear of the glue not holding. And you were right Cat, the first row is sewn onto the felt, the delicas are row 2 and 3. I may have to review how to do the peyote bezel but I think I am doing it right. as to the paisley, it just looked so bad, the beads are not laying in rows and getting jumbled. I really don't get why they are looking so bad. I may have to do a few tutorials to get the techniques done right since I am just winging it right now.

[caeterle]

If you want to keep going for the peyote bezel, try to make both the sewn on row and the first peyote one seed beads. I think the "petal" look probably has to do with the different shape of the both bead kinds.
After that it really depends on the size and height of the cab if you use more seed beads and/or Delicas and then 15s as you of course don't want to hide too much of your cab.

With the paisley, to get the rows right is really practice. Also even Miyuki beads are not always uniform. I found it depends a lot on the colors, too. So you may need to do some culling or put smaller beads aside to fill up possible gaps with them later.

[cymmy]

Jun 4, 2021 8:38:18 GMT -6 caeterle said:

If you want to keep going for the peyote bezel, try to make both the sewn on row and the first peyote one seed beads. I think the "petal" look probably has to do with the different shape of the both bead kinds.
After that it really depends on the size and height of the cab if you use more seed beads and/or Delicas and then 15s as you of course don't want to hide too much of your cab.

With the paisley, to get the rows right is really practice. Also even Miyuki beads are not always uniform. I found it depends a lot on the colors, too. So you may need to do some culling or put smaller beads aside to fill up possible gaps with them later.

thanks for the advice Cat. You are a wealth of information. The drops are not tall at all, almost flat really. maybe 2mm? So yeah, it doesn't take much. I will order some 15s and see how it turns out. I may go the glue route with some. I have hundreds of these so lots to make different designs with, though i do have a limited amount of pairs.

[caeterle]

I just guess I went through the same beginner's problems as you, Diane.
If you have so many drops, you could even use them on a bracelet together or a pendant, for example, or make a box lid or embellish other stuff.

[Irith-Rita]

I don't have any problems with beads. Mine are soldered:



Of course I miss the beautiful colorfulness of your beaded studs cymmy which makes them look special.